A narrow Yes win came from a debate in which many No voters agreed with half of it. Their repeated line was liability in money, not in law: “Financially? Probably, if no one else is going to be.”
The most-respected Yes case was a duty argument: parents “have a duty to raise their children, establish boundaries” and should face consequences where they have seriously neglected it. Another Yes voter said the state “encourages feckless parenting”, while one described a family hit by abuse and damage from tearaway kids whose parents “did nothing”.
The most-respected No case turned the question round: “Parents are not allowed to parent anymore, so what do you want them to do?” Others said a 13 to 15 year old in a gang is “realistically outside her control”, and one warned that jailing a parent would “destroy whatever shred of stability that child has left”. A blunter No voter simply wrote “No, regressive, draconian nonsense.”
What stands out is how much the two sides shared. Yes voters hedged with neglect, repeat offending and age limits, one suggesting criminal liability only up to about 14. No voters said they would back parental liability if neglect were proven.
The argument that never settled was where blame ends: with a parent who ignored warnings, or with an overstretched system around them.
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Parents are not allowed to parent anymore, so what do you want them to do? You raise your voice to your child now and its "causing them emotional distress" if you want to let parents parent then you can hold them accountable
Parenthood comes with responsibilities, and those responsibilities should not end when a child commits a crime. Parents have a duty to raise their children, establish boundaries and take reasonable steps to prevent them from engaging in criminal behaviour. Where parents have seriously neglected those duties, there should be consequences.
16 is too high an age. A 13-15 year old in a gang with a single mother is realistically outside her control. He should be sent to prison for his crimes, not his mother
Parents should be responsible for their children including the financial cost of out of control behaviour.
Financially and morally yes. Criminally no because children from good homes have murdered.
I say 'No' because slapping an automatic 'J'Accuse' on parents ignores nuance and the sometimes grey areas in dealing with under 16's. Some won't be told despite the most earnest of parenting. If the option was there to fine and charge parents who deliberately ignore responsibility or abstain from trying to correct and redirect their disobedient teens, then I would vote 'Yes'.
Sort out child services so they are not so stretched and sort out the lefty teachers. They should be teaching manners and respect.
There is no longer any consequences to behaviour by parent’s school or the police. We are creating a generation of people with no morals or values
Familial guilt is about as draconian as it gets; sins of the father and all that. If teens under-16s are committing more crimes, they simply need to be made aware that they WILL face punishment and serve time for it. Take less of a soft approach in dealing with them, and they'll be less likely to think they can get away with. Currently, they have no fear of repercussions and think they're untouchable because they're children. Remove that delusion and you fix the problem.
Financially? Probably, if no one else is going to be. Criminally? No. What would that mean in practice? Jail time? Charges on their records? It's absurd.