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DefenceEnded 6 Aug

Should the UK develop an indigenous submarine nuclear missile delivery system independent of the USA?

Yes 69%No 31%149 votes cast

The UK maintains its nuclear deterrent through four Vanguard-class submarines armed with Trident II D5 missiles acquired from the United States under the 1963 Polaris Sales Agreement. British-designed warheads are fitted to these US-supplied missiles, which are drawn from a shared pool and serviced in America, while the Prime Minister holds sole launch authority through independent UK command and control. In 2026, ongoing AUKUS partnership deepens nuclear submarine technology sharing with the US and Australia, but the UK faces ageing Vanguard boats, delays in the Dreadnought replacement programme, and debates over full sovereignty given reliance on American missile infrastructure.

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The question was about sovereignty over a missile system; the room kept turning it into a referendum on the bomb itself. The platform’s most-respected Yes argument was not a technical case for an indigenous British missile, but the priority that “We should spend the billions stopping the actual invasion happening right now.”

The rest of the Yes case mixed strategic autonomy with a darker reading of dependence on Washington. One voter argued that “only nations free of US oppression are nuclear-armed ones”, presenting an independent capability as protection against a superpower rather than merely an upgrade to Britain’s existing deterrent.

No voters were more explicit about abolition and affordability. Their strongest objections were that the UK should “get rid of the nuclear missile systems completely” and that “We can't even afford to service the nuclear subs we have”; the case for redirecting money towards homeland defence and accepting that the UK is no longer a military great power sat behind both.

That left the two sides arguing about different problems: Yes about sovereignty, vulnerability and the uses of deterrence; No about whether nuclear weapons were worth retaining at all. The exchange acquired a lightly barbed, half-joking tone in replies ranging from “there isn't one. There you go! Problem solved without spending a penny.” to “You should go outside.”

With AUKUS deepening cooperation with the United States while the UK debates how independent its deterrent really is, the result gives the sovereignty argument a clear hearing — but not a settled definition of what independence means. The chamber backed development while leaving the central distinction between an indigenous missile and an indigenous nuclear posture largely unresolved.

We should spend the billions stopping the actual invasion happening right now.

YES case · lewism · 2 respects

NO Simply because we should actually get rid of the nuclear missile systems completely. We are no longer a world player when it comes to military might & therfore should accept that, arming our forces differently. Instead of wasting many billions of pounds on nukes we'll never use, we should instead be investing those billions in creating a proper homeland defense force (similar to the Scandinav

NO case · JustFactsNotBeliefs · 1 respect

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Glasses· 556
The Motorway Marketeer
Voted noRight lean

We don't need to keep updating. Very advanced as it is, only2 or 3 countries keep improving theirs and if any of them wish to attack us we wouldn't stand a chance. The ones we have are as good as any detterent. Save billions!!

The Standards-First Conservative
Voted noRight lean

We can't even afford to service the nuclear subs we have.

Badge· 110
The Polymath
Voted yesH. Left lean

History has shown. That the only nations free of US oppression are nuclear-armed ones. We have the capability to do this and we should.

The Peacemaker
Voted noC. Left lean

NO Simply because we should actually get rid of the nuclear missile systems completely. We are no longer a world player when it comes to military might & therfore should accept that, arming our forces differently. Instead of wasting many billions of pounds on nukes we'll never use, we should instead be investing those billions in creating a proper homeland defense force (similar to the Scandinavian & many other European countries) designed to protect the borders of the UK

lewism· 846
The Managed Nation
Voted yesC. Right lean

We should spend the billions stopping the actual invasion happening right now.