A proposal to make the ballot conditional on employment met not a divided electorate but a near-rout: No won by more than three to one. The floor’s most-respected arguments treated the idea less as welfare reform than as an assault on equal citizenship.
The winning side argued that voting is a basic right, not a reward for economic usefulness. One of its strongest voices called it simply “an absurd proposition”, asking: “How do they voice their objections??” Others reached back to the history of universal suffrage, warning against returning to “the days and struggles before universal suffrage”.
Yes voters offered a clear, if narrower, principle: political power should follow contribution. The floor’s strongest Yes case put it bluntly: “If you don't participate in society, then you shouldn't get to decide how society is governed.” Other voices extended that argument into a broader programme of taxation, property, family and military service, but the debate rarely met the No side on the same ground.
The sharpest disagreement was over whether unemployment describes a failure of contribution or a condition imposed by circumstance. No voters pointed to disability, caring, study and redundancy, while another warned that “disenfranchising people based on work status is the same as disenfranchising the poor”; the Yes case, by contrast, focused on those it regarded as choosing dependency.
That puts the result squarely in the live argument about universal suffrage and conditional citizenship, but the page’s more specific finding is harder-edged: voters rejected the idea that employment is a credible test of political standing. The loudest argument was also the most settled one — the vote should not depend on whether the state, the market or an individual has left someone without work.
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Why? Do we want to return to the days and struggles before universal suffrage and even The 1832 Reform Act? How many men and women gave their lives in those struggles? Are we really prepared to see the right to vote based once again on employment?
There is no coherent argument for disenfranchising people.
Ah yes... Let's bring back Victorian voting qualifications and party like it's 1831. If we only let 'net taxpayers' vote, let's strip ballots from pensioners, students, and unpaid carers too. The best part? If the government totally wrecks the economy and closes your industry, forcing you out of a job, you lose the right to vote them out! Truly the ultimate life hack for incompetent politicians.... So no... Not a great idea
No. This is a disturbing question. 😶
An absurd proposition. What if government policies are causing their unemployment..... How do they voice their objections??
They are not criminals
As with any vote like this out relies on othering. I wonder how this would actually skew the vote, the assumption is often that most left leaning voters are those relying on benefits, but I'd take a guess that there are a lot on the right too, who have been told their inability to get a job is being caused by immigration, DEI policies etc...
Too many people vote. People with nothing to offer society should lose their say. Criminals. Foreigners. Benefits scroungers. There should be no representation without taxation. If you don’t contribute - you should not get to vote.
Who wrote this Question?! Absolutely ridiculous and as I'm long term unemployed due to disability and previously long-term sickness too I find this insulting! I'm a citizen of the uk born and bred, I think of how things affect myself and the wider picture so my vote is just as important as the next person.
I voted no because everyone deserves the right to vote and I don’t want to be part of that dystopian society where only people deemed worthy can vote. But I was conflicted as I see labour MPs chasing votes with strategies which may not be in our best long term interests.