The winning side treated bad public relations less as a failure of presentation than as a failure to listen, while its opponents often agreed on the diagnosis and rejected the premise. The result was a vote for Yes, but not a ringing endorsement of democratic messaging so much as a rebuke to politics that mistakes control for consent.
The floor’s most-respected Yes case put it starkly: “If you think we live in a democracy then you've already fallen for the propaganda”. Another highly rated voice said the UK was “not governable anymore”, describing scrutiny, media distraction and political fear as a system in which “not a single mistake can be made”.
The No case was not a defence of cheerful government spin. Its strongest voices argued that PR was beside the point: “The counter to disinformation isn’t PR, it’s clear, honest and factual communication backed by results”, while another said governments had been disliked because they had done “a pretty poor job of governing”. Yes voters heard closed ears; No voters heard an invitation to polish failure.
The two sides also talked past each other over propaganda itself. One Yes voter’s blunt standard was “the truth is the truth”, whereas a No argument said democracy already “forces politicians to over-focus on PR and spin” — making the problem not weak narrative control but too much of it.
The verdict is unusually coherent in one respect: voters wanted less management of public opinion, not better management of it.
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If you think we live in a democracy then you've already fallen for the propaganda
I think the UK is not governable anymore. An MP literally can't answer to the wrong person on their phone, their are witch hunts, total complete scrutiny years on end and not a single mistake can be made. It's gotten so bad, and the media end up talking about things we dont care about. That's why I come here, least there are questions like this that we dont get anywhere else.
The reason that successive governments have been viewed very negatively is because they've done a pretty poor job of governing. The idea that governments need better PR is a very strange one to me.
So I do think democracies are bad at PR, but so what? I don’t really want PR (or spin) from my government, but we’re bombarded with it anyway. Thank goodness they’re bad it, makes it easier to see through. I answered No because I do think PR should be irrelevant to democracy. The counter to disinformation isn’t PR, it’s clear, honest and factual communication backed by results.
In the interviews and debates, the MPs have a tendency to be ill informed, giving us false information, and opinions, mostly based on their experiences, or beliefs. This is not what I want, nor do the general public. We need and want, honesty, truth, provable truth.
Good or bad at public relations and they usually are bad but at the end of the day, the truth is the truth I just want the Government to say it how it is. If the problems are there, openness allows Government to deal with it.
No, the propaganda machine is working well and as they would expect. Remember years of Covid or now war on Ukraine. When they want, they can make mainstream media to shout at us unisono. And majority of the people is still under their spell. Even more or less free internet and social media can't reverse influence of propaganda. The small differences and scandals are here to upkeep illusion of democracy and that the Uni-party elements somehow are different from each other.
On the contrary, democracy forces politicians to over-focus on PR and spin, doing anything to avoid saying anything off-message or unpopular. Ironically this is why there is so little respect for politicians.
Well, yeah, democracies air all their dirty laundry in public by design. A free press makes its money off crisis and outrage. But opposed to, what? A dictatorship that censors their failures?
PR is irrelevant. Naive perhaps but we elect MPs as representatives some become Ministers & pretend to run things but really run by Civil Service & deep state entities. Politics generally involves multiple deceits. The press is not free it’s bought - more so since Covid & I think majority of Worlds press is owned by only 9 entities. No wonder the same nonsense is promulgated globally. We need honesty not ‘Campbell’ style lies. Problem is most Ministers are incompetent so lie.