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WelfareEnded 18 Jul

Should the UK Gov buy an index linked fund at birth for each person?

Yes 58%No 42%151 votes cast

The UK's state pension is funded on a pay-as-you-go basis through National Insurance contributions from current workers to pay today's retirees. With an ageing population and rising costs projected to exceed £150 billion annually by the early 2030s, some propose shifting to a funded model where the state invests a lump sum in a market-indexed fund for each newborn to grow over decades. Similar ideas appear in discussions around baby bonds or sovereign-style pension funds, potentially reducing future fiscal burdens but requiring significant upfront government borrowing or tax increases.

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The most striking thing about this vote is who found it easy to say yes to a scheme that offers them nothing personally soon: the under-55s, several generations away from drawing a state pension, embraced the idea by wide margins, while it was the 55-64s and over-65s — the cohort actually approaching retirement under the current pay-as-you-go system — who split against it or turned cool. A reform sold as fixing intergenerational fairness found its warmest reception precisely among those who would be its long-term beneficiaries, not its near-term recipients.

Gender told a sharper story still. Men here backed the fund comfortably, but women who voted split heavily against it, a divide that echoes wider unease about state investment schemes that ask citizens to trust markets, decades of compounding and government discipline over cash-in-hand pension guarantees.

The debate sits squarely on the fault line already opened by talk of baby bonds and sovereign wealth-style welfare abroad: whether the state should behave like an actuary, locking in returns now to defuse a fiscal timebomb, or whether that simply substitutes market risk for political risk while asking today's taxpayers to foot a double bill.

What seemed to move the floor was less the mechanics than the scope of ambition and the loopholes. The top Yes voice argued it should go further, that the fund "should completely replace all current state pension arrangements and late life state provided healthcare," while the most-respected No case fixed on portability, asking of a child who emigrates young: "How is that fair?"

A reform aimed at the next fifty years was judged, tellingly, most warmly by the people who have fifty years left to wait for it.

Yes. This should completely replace all current state pension arrangements and late life state provided healthcare

YES case · Seneca · 2 respects

A child is born in the UK, moves abroad with their family (either to return to home country or to emigraten, ever to return, never to work here or pay taxes but benefits from this scheme? How is that fair?

NO case · Liz · 3 respects

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The Explorer
Voted yesH. Right lean

Only for those with genunie British ancestry ie at least one English, Welsh, Irish or Scottish grandparent

Liz· 2
Voted no

A child is born in the UK, moves abroad with their family (either to return to home country or to emigraten, ever to return, never to work here or pay taxes but benefits from this scheme? How is that fair?

The Centurion
Voted noH. Right lean

We are bankrupt. Where would the money come from?

The Nuclear-First Hardliner
Voted yesRight lean

Seems like a better system for the future, as opposed to the current Titanic-style play. Why not?

Seneca· 190
The Security-State Taxcutter
Voted yesRight lean

Yes. This should completely replace all current state pension arrangements and late life state provided healthcare