“Women said NO. That’s all you need to know” was the emotional centre of a vote in which Yes carried the day by more than two to one. The result was not merely a judgement about threats; it was a demand that women’s privacy and dignity be treated as sufficient grounds for single-sex spaces.
The floor’s most-respected Yes case made precisely that argument: “single sex spaces are defined as protecting privacy and dignity for women”. Other Yes voters widened it into a claim about institutional control, saying women had been “colonised by men” in sport, care and public life. Even the more measured voices conceded that the question’s general framing was too blunt, arguing that “a more sophisticated approach is required”.
No voters answered that the question itself turned a marginalised group into a category of danger. Their strongest-rated case called the framing “dangerous and unfounded”, while others insisted that genuine trans women “are not a threat”. The two sides largely talked past each other: Yes argued that women should not have to prove an individual risk, while No returned to evidence, victimisation and case-by-case proportionality.
There was more nuance beneath the headline than the vote might suggest. Some No voters said, “I fully agree that biological women should be entitled to their own spaces”, but rejected the leap from that principle to a general threat; some Yes voters likewise separated trans people from “activists and politicians”. Yet the chamber’s respect ranking favoured the boundary-setting case, while several of the most sweeping or openly hostile interventions attracted little or no support.
This was a self-selected online chamber, not a national poll, but its verdict was unmistakable: privacy and categorical separation carried more force here than individual assessment or reassurance.
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This is very much a case of this not being an issue unless people make it an issue. There is no evidence of trans people committing crimes aided by their identity. In fact, trans women are four times more likely to be victimised than cis women.
I'm sick of this argument. There are of course people who will exploit the situation but genuine trans women are not a threat
As the question is framed in general terms i can only answer in those terms
Have men,women and others !!
Women's place on boards, women's sports and women's care are being colonised by men who behave just like men while proclaiming they are women. Women fought hard for their rights. Its only in my lifetime that equal pay, rape in marriage and domestic violence have been legislated for. The Olympics has only just has equal men's and women's sports. Men, including transwomen, are disproportionately responsible for violence & sexual assaults, & women deserve spaces away from them
This isn't a straightforward yes or no answer. In the main I fully agree that biological women should be entitled to their own spaces. However, many in the trans community do not pose a threat and quietly went about living their lives, not trying to cause problems. Especially those who had fully transitioned. The militant extremists within the trans movement have done a great deal of damage to those who do just want to live their lives.
Yes, but women don't have to prove "threat". Single sex spaces are defined as protecting privacy and dignity for women, not just safety from men, a small amount of whom are a threat. The problem is that if you let in a man in a dress, you have to let in all men, some of whom are dangerous, whether or not they are wearing a dress. So you have lost the ability to say no to any man. So they must all stay out, however nice they are, whatever they wear.
Except there is not such a thing as Transgender. Another devil’s spawn from the Frankfurt School / Marxist play book to destroy the family. These people are either mentally ill or violent angry political activists. Everybody can live their lives as they want but should not expect society to share in or condone their delusions.
When a man says NO people listen, When women say NO, men say "you're anti trans, you're evil, you're a TERF Listen all the left wing men telling us women we are far right yada yada yada WOMEN said NO. That's all you need to know. It's the end of the conversation. Respect our NO... Give TW their own spaces if you want but our single sex spaces are not on the table... I'll repeat myself just in case you lefties didn't get it... NOOOOOOOO NO NO NO NO
I don't like the phrasing of the question because it not the group themselves but activists and politicians to blame. Women's rights have been affected by poorly thought out and one sided policies which we have seen and now has started to end up with the inevitable backlash spreading across countries.