What's striking here isn't the margin, which is decisive but unremarkable, it's the consensus underneath it: this wasn't a generational grievance or a culture-war split but something closer to cross-age agreement that the current framework, with custody as last resort and reoffending running near half, has stopped working as designed. Yes carried every age bracket without exception, from the youngest voters to pensioners, which for a justice question is unusual — sentencing policy more often splits sharply by age, with the young more sympathetic to rehabilitation and the old more punitive.
The closest thing to a fault line ran through the middle years rather than the extremes: voters in their thirties, forties and fifties backed tighter discretion by the widest margins, while the youngest and oldest cohorts were somewhat more evenly split, suggesting the strongest appetite for reform sits with those most likely to be weighing crime as parents, taxpayers and potential victims rather than as offenders or as the more forgiving elderly. Men and women landed in almost identical territory, denying this the gender-coded shape that debates over policing or punishment sometimes take.
The vote sits squarely on the fault line that has run through British sentencing debate for a decade — between a Sentencing Council philosophy built on rehabilitation and diversion, and a public increasingly willing to trade judicial flexibility for predictability when persistent offenders reoffend after lenient treatment. It echoes the same instinct behind recent political pushes for mandatory minimums and tougher recall rules, treating discretion itself as the variable that has failed rather than any single judge.
The floor's argument distilled to a simple logic of failed deterrence: the top Yes voice insisted that a repeat offender "has, by definition, not been sufficiently punished or deterred," and so punishment "must be much more severe." The most-respected No voice didn't defend leniency so much as proportionality, allowing that repeat punishments should escalate but warning against "arbitrarily assign[ing] a punishment that could be far beyond proportionate," while still drawing a line at "the most extreme crimes."
What united the chamber was less a demand for harshness than a loss of patience with discretion itself — the argument was over how much rope judges should keep, not whether they'd used it well.
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By all means make their next punishment more severe than their previous, but don't just arbitrarily assign a punishment that could be far beyond proportionate. Rehabilitation can still work, I believe that. Giving up on people only condemns them to a criminal existence. I do draw the line at the most extreme crimes, however.
The real reason we are thinking about taking judges' discretion away is because they aren't using it properly. We need to build more jails and invest in probation services as well as increasing tariffs for repeat offenders like the US does.
Simply speaking if you are committing multiple offences, the. You have not learnt the lesson. If the punishments are not going far enough then basically turn up the heat on them. Make it look unappealing to reoffend.
A repeat offender has, by definition, not been sufficiently punished or deterred by justice for their previous crime. Therefore, punishment for the repeat offence must be much more severe.
Do the crime? Do the time. Rehabilitation just doesn't work for most. Introduce the death penalty for the worst crimes, and hard labour for less severe crimes. Would boost the economy, too. Zero tolerance for criminals.