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WelfareNationalClosed · Final

Should the government reduce social security spending by tackling problems in jobs, health and housing rather than cutting benefits?

Yes 58%No 42%108 votes cast

The prime minister wants to lower the social security bill by addressing underlying causes such as poor health, lack of decent jobs and high housing costs rather than making crude cuts to benefits. JRF research shows 59% of the public prefer tackling root causes over restricting eligibility or cutting rates. Every extra 100,000 people in work would reduce Universal Credit spend by around £700 million a year.

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What's striking is how little consensus this apparently mild proposition actually commanded once you look past the topline: voters here split by life stage in a way that scrambles the usual welfare-debate script, with those in their mid-thirties to mid-forties turning firmly against the idea while both the youngest adults and the over-65s backed it decisively. That pattern reads less like ideology than exposure — the cohort most likely to be juggling mortgages, childcare and precarious work seems to have heard "tackle the root causes" as a euphemism for delay, while older voters, further from the sharp end of housing costs and in-work poverty, could afford to like the sound of it.

Gender told a related story: men on the platform were evenly torn, while women leaned against the government's preferred framing, a divide that often surfaces when a policy's costs (waiting, conditionality, unproven "activation" schemes) fall disproportionately on those managing insecure work and caring responsibilities day to day. Put together, the age and gender lines suggest support for this approach is softest exactly where the social security system bites hardest.

The result sits squarely on the fault line Labour has been trying to walk since taking office — between a JRF-style public preference for addressing poor health, thin job markets and extortionate rents, and a harder-edged instinct, visible on the right, that the real savings lie in eligibility and enforcement rather than in patient reform.

That harder edge showed up in the chamber's most-respected No argument, which barely engaged with jobs, health or housing at all: "If we stop all illegal migration, deport all illegals, we would save billions," adding that anyone here illegally "should have all benefits removed" — a case built on border enforcement rather than the underlying-causes framework the question actually posed.

A majority here wanted the government to treat welfare spending as a symptom to be cured, not a bill to be cut — but the sharpest resistance came from the very voters closest to the problem it claims to solve.

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  • The Cultural DisciplinarianHard Right
    NO
  • K
    The Wealth-Tax EgalitarianLeft
    YES
  • The Guarded ProgressiveCentre Left
    YES
  • r08yn· 165
    The DiplomatLeft
    YES
  • MikeHowes· 246
    The Borderless Constitutional HereticHard Left
    YES
  • The Constitutional ModerateCentre Left
    YES
  • CDRook· 181
    The Rights-State ArchitectHard Left
    YES
  • C
    Cadbold· 18
    The Union GuardianCentre Right
    YES
  • G
    The Border-First ConstitutionalistRight
    NO
  • G
    GenLee· 290
    The Centre-Right Constitutional DissenterCentre Right
    YES
  • hywel· 20
    Left
    YES
  • Jam· 14
    Left
    YES
  • R
    Ricklor· 112
    The Green ConstitutionalistCentre Left
    YES
  • R
    Revere· 373
    The PolymathHard Right
    NO
  • A
    Andymac· 417
    The SageLeft
    YES
  • The Clemency ConservativeRight
    NO
  • D
    drayton· 177
    The Sovereignty EnforcerRight
    YES
  • ThisisKaj· 379
    Leader of PeopleCentre Left
    NO
  • The Green Discipline ModerateCentre Left
    YES
  • A
    AbiA· 99
    THE TAX-AND-ORDER REALISTCentre
    YES
58%
Yes · 63 votes
42%
No · 45 votes
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By gender
Male
54/46
Female
45/55
By age
16–24
63/37
25–34
58/42
35–44
35/65
45–54
85/15
55–64
50/50
65+
90/10
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H. Left
100/0
Left
93/7
C. Left
68/32
Centre
40/60
C. Right
56/44
Right
44/56
H. Right
0/100
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The Cultural Traditionalist
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If we stop all illegal migration, deport all illegals, we would save billions. Anyone here illegally should have all benefits removed. These people have past through many safe countries, there asylum applications should be cancelled, and they should be sent back to there country of origin or the last safe country they past through.