The proposed 1000cc ceiling fell by the slimmest of margins, leaving no mandate for a blunt engine-size rule. The room was less interested in a culture-war flourish than in a practical question: whether the vehicle itself is a reliable proxy for need.
No’s best case, and the argument the floor rated highest, was not opposition to reform but opposition to this reform. “No because some genuinely need cars that size,” it said, adding that the scheme should be tightened to ensure “genuine need and not non-disables taking advantage”; another No voice called the proposal “Knee jerk” and “Neither fair nor effective.”
The practical objections were specific. One voter said “1000cc is practically the smallest size of engine used in cars”, warning that a cap could exclude vans, more fuel-efficient larger-engined models and family cars, while another stressed that “Some people with huge wheelchairs or complex care needs require bigger cars.” The argument was that access, maintenance and independence cannot be reduced to cubic capacity.
Yes voters wanted the scheme narrowed more aggressively, but their case was less respected and more charged. One called to “Turn it back for wheelchair bound people”, while another relied on visible equipment — “Usually easy to spot someone with a motorised scooter etc” — and proposed much tougher eligibility criteria; the two sides were often arguing about who should qualify, rather than whether 1000cc was the right test.
That places the result inside the wider welfare argument over public money, abuse and disabled people’s independence, but the opinions here concentrated on the proxy itself. This was a self-selected online vote, not a national poll; its particular finding is that a narrow majority preferred scrutiny of eligibility to an engine cap.
The cap lost, but the demand for a scheme that distinguishes genuine need from misuse plainly did not.
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Some people with huge wheelchairs or complex care needs require bigger cars. There should be a way to get this. the small minded penny pinching idea that no one should have anything nice unless they are rich is infuriating. We are all going to be disabled at some point, by age or accident. If disabled people want to be independent , travel under their own steam and even get to work we should make this possible, they are after all funding the difference themselves.
Mobility scheme has been hijacked it wasn't for bed wetters or acne covered faces. . Turn it back for wheelchair bound people. Everyone else can get free dial a ride or use Mobility payments for taxis buses etc
Knee jerk idea. Neither fair nor effective.
1000cc is practically the smallest size of engine used in cars. Capping at 1000cc would ensure that people cannot use motability for vans (commonly 1400cc or higher), for more fuel efficient cars (which are around 1300cc), or for family cars (again, often 1400cc or higher). 1000cc engines also experience more stress, making it harder to maintain them short-term, while a 1500cc car can be maintained on a lower budget.
No because some genuinely need cars that size. However it should be reformed to ensure that it's genuine need and not non-disables taking advantage
Usually easy to spot someone with a motorised scooter etc, the criteria must be morbidly obese and an IQ of 70.