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EnvironmentEnded 26 Jul

Should the UK adopt a legally binding target to cut emissions by 87% by 2040?

Yes 36%No 64%150 votes cast

The UK has a legally binding Net Zero target by 2050. The Labour Party is poised to adopt a new legally binding target to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 87% below 1990 levels by 2040, following recommendations from the Climate Change Committee. Legislation on the seventh carbon budget is expected to be laid before Parliament in June.

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Fifty-four votes to ninety-six is not a photo finish, and the debate on the page reads like it: this was a rout in which the losing side supplied almost the only sustained argument to be found. Of the six opinions left, four came from the No camp and none from Yes attracted a single mark of respect, leaving the floor's verdict oddly unaccompanied by the case that actually won it.

The most-respected argument on the page, with two nods, wanted UK cuts tied to China's own reductions "from their 2000 rate," reasoning that this would give Britain room to "reopen all our coal fields and get more power stations built." Other No voters pressed a mix of complaints — one dismissed carbon capture as box-ticking that dodges "the ridiculous 'buy more stuff' and 'build more data centres' culture," another rejected the premise of net zero outright by invoking natural climate cycles, and a third simply wanted the market left to decide.

The Yes side, such as it appeared, argued instead from comparative virtue: one reply noted the UK's per-capita emissions are roughly half China's and said Britain should "absolutely be putting more pressure on other countries," while another framed warming as human-accelerated and warned of a century in which "we won't be able to live on earth." Neither Yes contribution drew any respect from the floor, and the two sides barely engaged each other's terms — fairness-to-China versus virtue-over-China, rather than a shared argument about the target's substance.

The result sits squarely on the fault line the Climate Change Committee's seventh carbon budget was always going to expose: whether a country responsible for a fraction of global emissions should bind itself to steeper, faster cuts while larger emitters set their own pace, a tension Westminster will now have to legislate around this summer regardless of what this floor decided.

That the No case, however contested its science, was also the only case anyone bothered to argue well is itself the story of this vote.

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The Welfare-Balanced Hardliner
Voted noRight

Net zero is fictional. If there was global warming what caused the last ice age. The planet moves closer and further away from the sun in cycles

rjane· 279
The Public Power Architect
Voted noLeft

Ed Milliband is a fan of carbon capture, which is unproven, has no benefits other than reducing the amount of measurable 'emissions' and does not address the cause. We will be ticking boxes to achieve this rather really sorting out our climate. this needs addressing globally, and by tackling the ridiculous 'buy more stuff' and 'build more data centres' culture we have developed. It wont improve our water supplies, clean our rivers or air. its performative .

The Centurion
Voted noH. Right

I vote we link our emissions to China’s. As they reduce theirs from their 2000 rate, so should we. I think that gives us plenty of slack to reopen all our coal fields and get more power stations built.

Glasses· 469
The Public-Order Traditionalist
Voted noRight

Let market decide