The question produced a clear demand for room to manoeuvre, not a call to sever the alliance: Yes won decisively, while most of the arguments came from voters who wanted Britain less exposed to American political shifts. The result was forceful, but the debate was not uniformly anti-American.
The floor’s most-respected Yes case made independence a test of sovereignty: “No point voting Brexit to reclaim sovereignty if that is subject to US opinion.” Other Yes voices framed the issue as resilience rather than rupture, arguing that “we need to have a foreign policy where we can look after ourselves” and remain less susceptible to the “vagaries of US elections”.
No offered a narrower, more practical proposition. Its strongest reply was that “We are too small not to ally with the US”, while another dismissed independence as “mere virtue signalling to cut off our nose to spite our face”; the two sides often talked past each other, with one debating strategic necessity and the other political dependence.
Trump was the immediate weather system over the debate, but not its whole climate. Even a Yes voter conceded that “with a sane president I’d bet closer to saying no”, suggesting the vote was partly a reaction to the instability of American leadership, while the chamber remained divided over whether Europe — or the UK alone — offered a credible alternative.
The room did not reject partnership; it rejected automaticity. Its verdict was for an alliance with a British hand more firmly on the tiller.
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Independent from usa and eu ,we are an independent country, for now !
Ideally we should be more independent but it’s not easy and I don’t advocate getting closer to the Socialist fascists in the EU. In many ways much of UKs outlook is like the US, but it’s difficult aligning with a country that shouts Freedom but invades cajoles and steals other countries resources under various vacuous excuses. Our outlook is more global than Europe but we have a greater historical perspective than US. Real issue is globalist bankers.
This question has brought all the Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers out of the woodwork. Of course we need to work with America. End of.
No point voting Brexit to reclaim sovereignty if that is subject to US opinion
I think either way, with or without trump, we need to have a foreign policy where we can look after ourselves no matter what.
With a sane president I'd bet closer to saying no. At present we don't want to be associated with his lunatic whims and wars of the week.
YES without a doubt. We only have to look at Trumps latest shinanagins to see why it's vital we move away from the USA. There never was a special relationship between GB and the USA. The USA has always fleeced Britian with thus special relationship costing Britian billions of pounds. For example the WW2 lend lease deal... Britain only stopped paying the massive debt for USAs 'support' during WW2 back to the USA in the 70s!!