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Is social security a bigger priority than national security?

The UK welfare budget is projected to reach 11.1% of GDP by 2030 while defence spending is set to rise to 2.7% of GDP next year under the Defence Investment Plan, with a longer-term target of 3.5% by 2035. Prime Minister Andy Burnham stated at PMQs on 9 September 2026 that national security cannot come at the expense of social security and rejected using housing benefit reforms to fund extra defence. The opposition Conservatives argue for faster defence increases funded partly by welfare savings amid rising global threats.

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lewism· 774
The Supreme Leader
Voted noRight

No national security, no social security.

The Respected
Voted noRight

As has been noted, it's not a simple case of money from one pot to another. Defence spending needs to increase, they're is no doubt about this however there are many mechanisms available to allocate the funds for this.

PNutt· 201
The Recruiter
Voted noLeft

The premise of this question is floored as it cannot be a simple binary answer. Security of the population is the first priority of a government and this includes a whole range of provision be it defence, policing, health and safety, social, health and wellbeing. The real question is what is the balance between these often competing priorities and a simple yes or no answer cannot adequately explore such a complex problem.

djeglin· 63
The Justice-First Leftist
Voted yesLeft

If we don’t prioritise looking after the most vulnerable in our society, then what are we really protecting? As has been said by others, this is not a simple zero-sum equation, so the question presents a false dichotomy. There are any number of other areas where money could be diverted to national defence. This isn’t all about benefits, no matter how much some people would like it to be.

The Peacemaker
Voted noLeft

NO but also YES Without one there's no need for the other. We need to remember social security isn't just about the usual benefits those who don't like helping the less fortune keep on about. It's also pensions & knowing you'll be looked after once you come out of hospital for example. Maybe we just need to rethink how we spend our buck on defence, if we got rid of the 'Nukes' we'll never use, that'd nearly double the money we could spend on our conventional defense forces

The Atlantic Gatekeeper
Voted noRight

A nation is defined by having borders and the ability to defend them. Without that, everything falls.

Astobie1· 412
The Institutional Taskmaster
Voted noRight

Those arguing that this question is a false dichotomy may have a point, all the questions do. However, should the out of control spending on social services be reigned in? Yes. Would that free cash to spend on defence? Yes. Do we need to spend more money on defence? Yes. And a lot more. Poorly worded, but not a false dichotomy.

The Voice
Voted yesH. Left

The question as written is nonsense - it's an entirely false dichotomy. This seems to be in reference to whether we should cut social security in order to funds defence spending increases, but that would give entirely inverse answers. I strongly urge whoever is running this place to think more carefully about how to write questions and to exclude all answers to this one from any data set.

atc1249· 428
The Rights-and-Repair Centrist
Voted noCentre

The primary responsibility of a government is the protection of the people. The balance between military and social welfare protection which was skewed by the peace dividend and over reliance on the USA. With the changes now evident in formerly reliable world alliances this balance must be reset to favour the prudent strengthening of our military. A generous welfare state is a luxury the UK cannot afford as without a state, there cannot be a social safety net.

pete173· 150
The Border Pluralist
Voted noLeft

Yet another false binary, which indicates that the people asking these questions do not understand that the task of government is to govern, not to sloganise. There must be both social security and security from our enemies. Refnation seems to be predicated on prejudice and sloganising.