There is a useful test built into this vote: the group most likely to still watch live television and pay the fee without complaint, the over-65s, gave Yes its narrowest majority of any age band, while the 35-44s, squarely in the streaming-native, box-set generation, backed abolition by a wide margin. That is not a chamber rejecting the BBC out of nostalgia for a fairer system; it is one increasingly puzzled by why a household should be billed for a channel it barely opens.
The clearer fracture, though, was between men and women, with women here even more decisively for scrapping the fee than men. That is not the shape critics of the licence fee usually predict, where the argument is cast as older, male, Reform-adjacent grievance about presenter pay and bias; instead it reads as a broader appetite, cutting across gender, for paying only for what you actually use.
The result slots neatly into the argument Lisa Nandy is trying to referee rather than settle: whether to stretch a version of the fee onto streaming subscribers, or let the whole edifice fall to the market, as this vote's majority effectively favours. Falling collection, rising evasion and a decade of rows over impartiality and salaries have evidently done real damage to the case for compulsion.
The floor's sharpest exchange captured the whole dispute in miniature. The top Yes voice reasoned plainly that "if they are as good as they say subscriptions would be no problem to pay for great programs," treating the BBC's confidence in its own output as the test it should have to pass. The most-respected No case pushed back that the corporation's value lies precisely in being compulsory and universal, warning that "if it was just another streaming service, it would be smaller, less adventurous and we would b" — the argument, fittingly, cut off before its final word.
A public broadcaster funded by universal obligation was voted, on this evidence, to be judged instead like any other subscription — wanted, but no longer owed.
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If they are as good as they say subscriptions would be no problem to pay for great programs
Scrap it, make it part of council tax, run it as subscription... eitherway chill out on enforcement the technology is there and easy enough to make a TV licence payment recive a code and to use it to access and view all services that require a TV licence and have others locked out of it, you do not need to be sending people to prison or handing out heavy fines for it. Only reason they do it now is because third party administration companies make money off people not paying
If it was a subscription service how much would the subscription be? Currently the mandatory licence fee is about £15 pcm. A voluntary subscription would be significantly higher
The Beeb does so much more for the public than just BBC 1 & 2. Like stuff for schools & communities , local radio etc etc Regardless of political beliefs it IS fairly neutral.. I say this simply because both the political left & right scream it's biased the other way. Which actually means it's fairly neutral. I don't doubt in recent times political parties have messed around with the Beeb, trying to sway the balance. That needs to stop!
The time when BBC was respectable institution (if ever) is deep in the past. Today it is part of the lefty propaganda machine, promoting the only right line. Distribute the shares among the adult citizens based on the value of the corporation and scrap licence fee. Let it swim or sink freely.
Why does everything need to be a subscription? I pay for my sky or my BT or whatever you choose as a subscription to watching TV, why do I also need to pay the BBC permission to watch those channels? If the bbc can’t find themselves without it then they need to look at paying individuals a lot less and make far more interesting programmes to watch
There is real value to the country as a whole in the BBC. A news service which both right and left think is biased against them, so generally doing something right, the foundations for a massive cultural industry, and even now in these days of streaming a regular gathering point for society as a whole. If it was just another streaming service, it would be smaller, less adventurous and we would be diminished
Absolutely. Why should anyone be forced to pay for a service that is increasingly government propaganda or woke drivel. If the BBC is so sure it remains much-loved and trusted, it would leap at the chance to move to a subscription service. Instead, it clings to the socialist model of demanding and spending other people's money.
I wouldn't watch the BBC if they paid ME.