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Should England get a vote on independence from the UK?

Yes 51%No 49%83 votes cast

A parliamentary petition calls for a referendum on full English independence from the UK, citing the financial burden England taxpayers bear supporting Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Recent discussions on social media link it to ongoing Scottish independence debates, where some English voices argue for reciprocal self-determination rights. The UK government has not scheduled such a vote and the constitution treats England as the continuing core of the Union without a separate independence mechanism.

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For a question that reads like a thought experiment — English independence, of all things — the chamber treated it with surprising seriousness, splitting 42 to 41 in favour, a margin so thin it barely counts as a verdict at all. This was not a landslide dressed up as a debate; it was a genuine coin-flip on a subject Westminster has never had to legislate for because it has never needed to.

The age pattern is the real story. The 45-54s broke decisively for a Yes, eight to two, while the 25-34s went the other way by two to one — a rare instance of the usual generational script running backwards, with midlife voters more restless about the Union's finances than the young. Everyone else, from the youngest cohort's dead heat to the over-55s' near-standoff, simply couldn't make up its mind, and men split exactly down the middle while women tilted only faintly towards Yes.

It echoes a fault line that has been forming quietly since the Scottish independence debate first asked who subsidises whom in the Union: English resentment at footing the bill for devolved settlements, however constitutionally exotic the proposed remedy. There is no mechanism for such a vote and no sign one is coming, but the closeness here suggests the grievance behind it is more evenly held than either side would like to admit.

A question with no path to a ballot box still managed to produce a result too close to call.

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    Debtats· 100
    THE STATE DISCIPLINARIAN67% · In Step
    NO
  • The Localist Insurgent66% · In Step
    YES
  • Angel· 451
    The Republican Right-Heretic66% · In Step
    YES
  • T
    The Egalitarian Enforcer66% · In Step
    NO
  • The Wealth Tax Moderate73% · In Step
    YES
  • Rabbit· 245
    The Rights-First Housing Dissenter64% · Coin Flip
    NO
  • The Welfare Guardian58% · Coin Flip
    NO
  • Beechy5· 60
    The Landlord's Instinct63% · Coin Flip
    NO
  • The Stalwart70% · In Step
    NO
  • Slawomir· 483
    The Work-and-Ownership Hardliner62% · Coin Flip
    YES
  • Hawkish patriot with a devolutionist streak66% · In Step
    NO
  • Ethan· 132
    The Nuclear Realist77% · In Step
    NO
  • K
    The Bellwether72% · In Step
    NO
  • Chelina· 478
    THE HARDLINE LEVELLER70% · In Step
    YES
  • Astobie1· 249
    The Compassionate Enforcer67% · In Step
    NO
  • Paige· 9
    The Early Left Realist56% · Coin Flip
    NO
  • The Windfall Leveller62% · Coin Flip
    NO
  • The Barracks Radical65% · In Step
    YES
  • The Sceptical Internationalist76% · In Step
    YES
  • The Straight-Down-The-Line Right43% · Contrarian
    NO
51%
Yes · 42 votes
49%
No · 41 votes
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The Founder
Voted noCentre Right

Further division in a connected and global economy is not the answer, in my view. Increasing output and parity between the countries should be the goal. This path may lead us to regional fragmentation, decreasing global standing.

The Fiscal Constitutionalist
Voted noHard Right

Disagree with devolution. Should be scrapped.

Glasses· 310
The Energy Sovereignty Dissenter
Voted yesRight

We pay more for all other nations than they put in. Still hate us.